1. BrianF

    New again forum user here.
    My '01 2500 (HO 6 spd) ECM died about 18 months ago. Tried AutoECU for a repair and was unsuccessful, got a refund and sent it to Flagship1. I know. Who could possibly pick two shady companies in a row, but I did. After months the tracking number went active and supposedly my unit was on its way - right up until Denver where it was "lost". It went to the USPS black hole in Atlanta never to be found. FS1 only insured it for the minimum that comes standard with USPS Priority Mail - $100 - which I have not claimed.
    Bought a used one from an individual, also dead.
    Counting the value of the original part I'm already out thousands on tow charges, dead part and labor charges from various repair shops, including the local Dodge dealer.
    So, I either need a working rebuilt ECM, or (heresy here) advice on replacing this Cummins boat anchor with an big, old school GAS engine. Everything else on the truck is in great condition, I've had all the fuel pumps and injectors replaced, still a good engine with only 245000 miles, I'm just grasping at straws at this point.
     
    BrianF , Jun 1, 2023
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  2. Signal73

    What’s the ecm run on a 24 valve? Would a p pump swap take care of any issues a dead ecm causes?
     
    Signal73 , Jun 1, 2023
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  3. Ozymandias TDR MEMBER

    P-pump conversion is cheaper.
     
    Ozymandias , Jun 1, 2023
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  4. BrianF

    I know nearly nothing about this, can you spell it out like you were talking to a child? I'm open for any solution that gets it on the road and is reliable.
     
    BrianF , Jun 1, 2023
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  5. BigPapa TDR MEMBER

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    BigPapa , Jun 1, 2023
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  6. GAmes TDR MEMBER

    Priced a p-pump lately? Also need injection lines, different injetors, a gear case and a significant trove of knowledge.

    OP, SIA Electronics | ECU Repair for all Makes and Models has good reviews on the Cummins forum.
     
    GAmes , Jun 1, 2023
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  7. Ozymandias TDR MEMBER

    Compared to an Engine swap man...:D
     
    Ozymandias , Jun 2, 2023
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  8. Ozymandias TDR MEMBER

    Yes, some small parts around it but it's a proven way to go.
    But you loose some Horse Power along the way and if you need SMOG then forget about it.
     
    Ozymandias , Jun 2, 2023
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  9. petersonj TDR MEMBER

    If you are willing to try one more time for an ECM rebuild, I recommend:

    Auto Computer Specialists
    221 S State Rd 7
    Plantation FL 33317
    Phone: (954) 513-8359
    Fax: (954) 688-2499

    I have not used them personally, but many people on the Mopar1973Man site have - with good results.

    - John
     
    petersonj , Jun 2, 2023
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  10. Signal73

    In a nutshell you are taking the electronic VP44 injection pump used in the late 98-02 cummins trucks and replacing it with the mechanical P-7100 injection pump used in the 94-early 98 cummins trucks.
     
    Signal73 , Jun 2, 2023
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  11. JeepBuilder TDR MEMBER

    I had a dead pedal problem. Found a used ECM from a running but crashed truck two months earlier than mine. It did not want to idle because of a crank position sensor that was on the parts truck and mine had no CPS. Sent the ECM to 1 engine control and they flashed it to my VIN. The truck runs better than it ever has. Granted you will need an ECM to have them rework, but this company was great to deal with. If and when you find one. I did a nation wide search and specifically targeted a crashed truck. Because it was running when it was wrecked. I passed on a few trucks with no apparent damage for fear of a bad ECM and possible run-ability issues.
     
    JeepBuilder , Jun 7, 2023
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  12. BrianF

    For a follow-up: I went with a P-pump swap. It's been enormously expensive and it's still not solved every problem. Without the original ECM, none of the dash gauges work, so I am STILL needing to source an ECM or face the nightmare of ugly aftermarket gauge packs to monitor the engine. At this point I expect this ECM repair job to cost around $10k, not including the value of the lost/stolen original ECM and 2 years of lost use of the truck.
     
    BrianF , Dec 31, 2023
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  13. GAmes TDR MEMBER

    I tried to tell you. But "in for a penny, in for a pound", after market gauges are your best bet. A new ECM will only give you CE lights and false failure codes.
     
    GAmes , Jan 1, 2024
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  14. GSP7

    Why on earth would you do a P-Pump swap because you have a bad ECM . That's like replacing your transmission because you have a flat tire....:confused:

    I had to replace my ECM on my '99 years ago. I did alot of research. I cant remember who I got it from. If you PM me I will Look in my receipts, get the name.. They rebuild Aircraft ECMs also and was a very very reputable co. I have had zero issues with the new ECM and has worked great a flawless for years.

    Back then the consensus was stay away from the Florida dealers

    You want to check your alternator and make sure it is 100% good. A bad diode in the alternator will damage the ECM
     
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    GSP7 , Jan 1, 2024
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  15. GAmes TDR MEMBER

    You might already know this but with a p-pump you don't need an ECM. To make your gages work with a 12 valve engine you need a '98 12 valve PCM, probably the wire harness and maybe the instrument gauge cluster as well. Oh, and also '98 12 valve sensors more than likely.
     
    GAmes , Jan 1, 2024
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  16. Topzide TDR MEMBER

    Or you could take out the cluster and have gauge plate made and mount all the gauges that you would like. JM2C.
     
    Topzide , Jan 2, 2024
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