1. p-Bar

    Sam I think they are doing it to see how well the new flash is working. Funny thing thing they want to do it on a dyno and monitor emissions. EPA was convinced that it needed to be real life driving. I think that's how CARB did it and busted them.
    I'm reading the book that tdr recommended, very interesting.
     
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  2. sag2 TDR MEMBER

    On emissions recalls the manufacturer is required to complete a certain percentage of the vehicle population. Failing to do so results in significant fines for not hitting the number. It is less expensive to entice the customer over paying fines.
     
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  3. Diesel85 TDR MEMBER

    I'd like to see an in depth real life driving emissions test on a 2018 gas truck that has 100k miles on it. My bet is the same mileage diesel will perform better even without this software flash...
     
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  4. p-Bar

    EPA is looking at nox which gas vehicles can contain, diesels have a harder time doing.
    Wouldbe nice if they were more transparent on the testing procedures.
     
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  5. Diesel85 TDR MEMBER

    NOx is one thing and only one pollutant, but I know for a fact that gas engine catalysts degrade quicker than our complicated emissions system on our diesels. You don't even need any special equipment, just a decent nose for smelling. A gas vehicle with 10k miles on it will have minimal odor. The same gas vehicle with 100k will stink. Seems like there is a lot of variance allowed with gas engines.

    Just seems a bit suspicious the EPA is hammering only one fuel type.

    We the people need to do something about it.
     
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  6. Tuesdak

    My letter arrived and page 2 has a claim form. I haven't noticed any difference with the recall done.
     

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  7. brillmtb1

    So I got the extended warranty notice, have not done either of the two updates mentioned yet. My concern is that if they have to extend warranty doesnt that mean that the update causes premature issues and thats why they need to warrenty?
     
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  8. p-Bar

    I think it's just a bone they are throwing at us.
     
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  9. Cummins12V98 TDR MEMBER

    I want a much better tasting “BONE”
     
    Cummins12V98 , Jun 26, 2024 at 1:30 AM
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  10. Diesel85 TDR MEMBER

    How about a nice hefty discount on a new truck... I would possibly take them up on that offer.
     
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  11. Cummins12V98 TDR MEMBER

    Reminds me of the GM side tank fiasco. My 86 was a diesel but I still was given a $500 "coopin" towards any GM vehicle. Years later I did use it along with my accumulated GM credit card points to help my daughter buy a nice starter car.
     
    Cummins12V98 , Jun 26, 2024 at 11:28 AM
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  12. sag2 TDR MEMBER

    My neighbors brother paid $6,700 on his 2014 a while back for SCR repair. He got the letter and sent his receipt in for reimbursement. They denied it because the repair was before the warranty extension was issued. I told him to file in small claims, I know he will win.
     
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  13. Diesel85 TDR MEMBER

    It's a shame that one would need to do this. It costs everyone money and time in the end.
     
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