1. slowmover

    Forgot to add fuel cost per mile:

    Every mile of operation for fuel + tires (at $5/gal constant) came to 29-CPM. Find the number you’re working with.

    If tires don’t last and exact a MPG penalty it hurts the wallet severely.

    Tires X3 in 125,000-miles could be 048-CPM. Added to Annual Average 15-MPG for typical CTD owner that’s 39-CPM.

    — Multiply CPM figures by lifetime total odometer miles expected.

    At 500k expected I could’ve bought two more of my truck (clones) given what I paid per the difference in fuel + tire expense above. Just 10-CPM.

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    Failure to understand this is why some big truck owners don’t make it in self-employment. I have to make the numbers work for someday being retired.

    — Best tire choice for a job description goes hand-in-hand with best operation for best results.

    Leverage.


    Good luck.

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  2. Cummins12V98 TDR MEMBER

    Quote for my 15 DRW from Discount tire. Michelin LTXAT2's set of 6 out the door including TX with a 60k Michelin warranty $2,004.24

    My current Michelin's have 65k and are still legal. 1/2 of my miles are towing at full RAWR. Don't think ya can do much better.
     
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  3. Cummins12V98 TDR MEMBER

    Pics

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  4. HarryOlson

    I’ve been running Toyo ATIII on my 2019 3500. I tow heavy about 4000 miles annually. These photos are at 61,134 miles. They are LT 295/7018 and are very nice tires. 20240621_142655.jpeg #ad
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    HarryOlson , Jun 23, 2024
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  5. Turbo Terry

    I’m also looking for new tires before this coming winter November. I want a all season tire I can rotate 4 tires once a year and run year round that will be good in the ice and snow of alaska winters and haul my 3000 lbs slide in truck camper in the short 3 month summer season. Pretty tall order. What kind might that be ?
     
    Turbo Terry , Jun 24, 2024
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  6. slowmover


    If I didn’t link earlier:

    My Anchorage-based son decided to use the OEM Transforce 4-5/months annually, and NOKIAN Hakkapeliitta LT3 on his ‘24 3500 LWB the rest of the year.

    Received truck at about Xmas. Not used much, yet, but he’s pretty happy with the decision given the tendency of far too many Alaskan's who avoid dedicated snow tires. His other vehicles follow the same schedule.

    https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a26517205/nokian-hakkapeliitta-lt3-winter-tires/

    A retired engineer who was on-call 24/7/365 in the northern Canada oilfield as a hotshot driver years back first sold me on the brand virtues. He used a 2WD shortbed and accumulated 300k miles of experience (500-lbs minimum in bed). No trailer loads.

    I can’t see the point of All-Season where the majority of calendar time favors Snow-rating.

    Nothing exceeds Steering in precedence.
    Brakes a pretty close second.

    How many times would I have to slide into a ditch to have covered the Alaska Tire Penalty (Climate-Added Expense) is my rendition of the question.

    Are there any fleets in your area? Well-regarded tire shops?
    Both are focused on low-cost with performance reports that ought to be a good way to narrow it down.

    Look forward to your reports on choices made.
    No telling what’ll be available in the future.


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    slowmover , Jun 24, 2024
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  7. Turbo Terry

    Most of my driving is done in the summer.My Firestone Transforce HT have done ok with 500 lbs behind the rear wheels and in 4 high. So what I need is a summer tire that will get me thru the winter. My wife’s awd car does most of the around town in the winter
     
    Turbo Terry , Jun 24, 2024
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  8. MichaelD86

    If your going Nitto go with the Recon grappler. I’ve had them on my 2500 for about 10k and barely show wear. I have towed a lot of those miles with my 5th wheel that weighs in around 11k. I was at the tire shop today getting a new one because a scre was too close to the shoulder to repair. Glad I bought road hazard. Anyway. Can’t tell the new tire from the rest as far as tread wear. I’m in Colorado and had them on last winter. Did really well. They do hold rocks a bit and throw them at speed. But for a hybrid all terrain what can you expect. Overall really satisfied with them. Went with a 285/65/20. Slightly larger then stock and like the look.
     
    MichaelD86 , Jun 24, 2024
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  9. slowmover

    MICHELIN AGILIS

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    https://www.michelinman.com/auto/tires/michelin-agilis-crossclimate

    Can’t hurt to start with a premium brand commercial tire as reference to see what’s being promoted as advantage by manufacturer. (Tread is second to case design).
    • Our most durable heavy-duty light commercial truck tire.
    • Professional-grade construction, including CurbGard™ sidewall protectors that resist curb scrubbing in urban environments. This tire has more than twice as much nylon reinforcement than the MICHELIN®Defender® LTX® M/S tire for improved durability.
    • Improved tread life under heavy loads. The MICHELIN® Agilis® CrossClimate® tire lasted 10% to 19% longer under heavy loads than three leading competitive commercial tires.
    • MaxPressure Profile™ optimizes the tire's footprint for better wear life under high pressure, heavy loads, high torque and stop-and-go driving. Additionally, the StabiliBlok™ design provides wider and longer tread blocks to resist extreme torque while providing cool operating temperatures under full loads at high speeds.
    • Excellent wet and snow traction. The MICHELIN® Agilis® CrossClimate® tire offers shorter wet stopping distances and better snow traction than leading competitive commercial tires
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    • SipeLock™ provides hundreds of biting edges for improved wet and snow traction without sacrificing tread block stability.
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    slowmover , Jun 24, 2024
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  10. Axel

    I live in Canada 8 months of winter. The best I have ever had are Goodyear Duratrac winter rated year round.
     
    Axel , Jun 24, 2024
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  11. slowmover

    Saw several references. Commercial

    https://www.goodyear.com/en_US/tires/wrangler-duratrac/354.html


    https://www.tirerack.com/tires/goodyear-wrangler-duratrac

    https://www.goodyear.com/en_US/tire-stores/AK

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    https://www.tirerack.com/upgrade-garage/what-is-the-threepeak-mountain-snowflake-symbol

      • Tires branded with the 3PMSF symbol are expected to provide improved snow traction beyond a standard M+S branded all-season tire, however 3PMSF-branded all-season and all-terrain tires cannot match the traction of dedicated winter / snow tires in all winter weather conditions and should not be considered a replacement for where and when a dedicated winter tire is needed.

      • That designation looks like your bullseye for research.

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    slowmover , Jun 24, 2024
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  12. Turbo Terry

    Good info all keep it coming thanks
     
    Turbo Terry , Jun 25, 2024
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