Need to start a Tire war

I ordered the General Grabber AT2 today. $140/tire. They have a 6 year/60,000 warranty. Tread pattern is VERY similar to BFG. We'll see how it goes. For that price, worth a try I guess.

 

I paid $230. 00/tire installed for my 285/75 17E. When I referred to less then $200/tire it was for the 265/70 17E Dura Grapplers not installed or delivered. Sorry for the confusion. Mine were $217/tire delivered to my drive way via UPS and a local shop mounted and balanced them for $13/tire.

 

I just recently bought a new set of Toyo 285's - - second set for this truck. After about a month I was looking closely at the tires and two of them are made in China. I didn't know any Toyo's were made there. Next time I will look closer at Nitto or BFG.

 

high mileage tires

I don't tow or carry excess weight in the bed. I installed a set of Cooper ATR tires 265/70-R17 Load E at 53K miles. I currently have 112k on the odometer. Thats 59,000 honest miles. Probably could have gotten more if I would have rotated more often than 15k. I have ordered a set of Toyo 35-12. 50-17 E. Will try to rotate @ 6k and see what I get. I would get another set of Coopers but they do not make a load range E in anything but the stock size tire#@$%!





Andy

 

Switchin to AT

Tire discussions are always a good time.



My RAM is now my son's daily driver. The GY MTRs are showing wear and I need to switch to an AT. I'll still trade him for hunting and backpacking trips I do three or four times a year, but for his use I need a better street tire that will last longer than a MT. I am considering the BFG AT TKO or the GY Duratrack. I am leaning to the BFG due to prior experience and that 3 ply sidewall. What do you guys think I should do?

 

Last month I purchased a set of Pirelli Scorpions stock size and have used them for one towing road trip through mountainous terrain. I think the ride is better and I feel more control of the load than with the costco bfg's I took off.

On another truck, my woodhauler/hunting/offroad 1/2 ton short-box today I had installed a set of bfg km2's. If I knew they had these sized for our trucks (they do in load range E) I may have opted for these. Maybe a little agressive for city driving, but in our territory I'm thinking they would do great.

 

compare the tread pattern of the General Grabber AT2 with that of the BFG AT. Then compare the price.

The reviews of the Grabber by consumers on Tire Rack rate them higher than the BFG as well in almost every category.

 

I did!

This tire a newest offering and is quite nice.

New tread, recessed bead, extra ply in sidewall...

#ad

 

Oh, I thought you were looking at an All-terrain. That looks like the Mud terrain.

 

Left is BFG, right is General

 

One thing I noticed while shopping tires over the past couple months is there are many more choices, with better design selection in our sizes and load range. It's now possible to select a tire for each individuals use preference.

On our highway/tow rig comfort, noise and m&s rating were important.

On the town/utility rig, traction and sidewall were paramount. In our little 2 tire shop town choices are limited thus the scorpions were purchased from a national chain because we travel with the ctd and would likely need a shop during travels. The wood truck, I had the choice of mastercraft or cooper. I opted to have the cooper dealer "order in" the bfg's because they are what I wanted and the tires do not require tread-life warranty because I will have these tires on the rig for 10 years or more.

 

THe best way to save money is the put the "D" rated tires on your truck, which will work if you don't tow anything.



The per tire weight rating is about 2800# and you may get a smoother ride 'cause the tires only require 40 psi.

 

Riddle me this, Last truck was an 03 with OEM BFG's and I got 82K out of them?? I now have a 04 with 285 MT wearing thin quick, want to return to the BFG's (because of mileage/wear) will I get the same wear?

 

The OEM BFG's on my '07 have 32K on them and have quite a bit of life left in them mileage wise. I would guess at least another 10-15K or so before they would be worn out. I will be replacing them this fall just due to the sidewalls being sliced up and checked from spending so much time off road.

 

OK, lets be sure when we talk about BFGs we are talking about the AT TKOs, not the "soft" trail stuff that comes stock. I blew out the stock BFG "rugged" trails within 20K. Yeah, I used the 4x4 mode a few times when I should have stayed on the pavement.

I couldn't find the General Grabber AT in 285/70/17, so I guess it's the BFG ATs unless someone has something nice to say about the American made tires from GY

 

Nothing like a good tire chat to get the postcount up. Something like being up at the hunt camp and asking whats the best caliber for deer and then whats the best procedure to clean it. Thats good for an all evening tirate.



Anyways I have been running Toyo M55's for all most 2 yrs now. There a commercial duty tire, very tough and long wearing, but pricy. Near as I can remember I replaced the stock BFG's at about 95K and thats in Kilometers. The truck has about 235k K's on it now, math says the Toyo's have 140k K's or about 85K miles. The treads getting down, I haven't decided if I will keep them on for the winter. They have been a good tire. Not a great freeway tire, but okay.

I have no complaints, and have had no problems with them.

The truck is used daily, it tows now and then plus totes 3000Ib of slide in camper several times a year.



In some circles the Goodyear Silent Armor Pro series is liked. But no mention of it here. Does anybody have any experience or comments on them?

 

I had the silent armors on my 2004. They only lasted about 35,000 mi. The original LTX Michelin's went about 50,000. The goodyears were squirmy with a load & lost thier winter traction at about 20,000 mi. I've been happy so far with the Nitto dura's.

 

I got a set of 7 cooper discoverer ATR 235/70/17 for my dually. I rotated them at least every 5,000 miles. I took a road trip in june made it all the way to MD and then to Detroit and had to replace the ones on the front wheels. They were way more gone than the rear four? I rotated properly except once on the trip. I only got about 20,000 miles all together on the tires. I think (know) my truck has some issues. I have every brace imaginable on the front end. 08 steering upgrade, Carli upgrade, BD steering brace, Even a new steering box. I drive a lot, really curvey roads up here in Northern Cali. But really 20,000 miles out of a set of tires. I know have the coopers up front and four toyo open country AT in the back. I am going to get 19. 5 commercial wheels and tires before I buy a new set of trash. I'm in on the war, Lets do this!!!!!!!

 

do the 285/75/17 fit in the spare

 

Yes. My Toyo MTs fit in the spare tire area, but if you have a MagHytec cover, as I do, you will need to pull it all the way back against the hitch when you raise it so it will clear. I did that with mine and it clears by a few millimeters... Oo. If you have a stock diff cover then no problems at all.