1. Diesel85 TDR MEMBER

    CARB hates us diesel owners. I'll leave it at that for you to imagine what kind of vulgar language I use when I think of CARB.

    Instead of embracing diesel and it's renewables, they would rather us diesel owners to go away permanently.
     
    Diesel85 , Jun 12, 2024
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  2. Learjet

    That is why I stop short of California...everyone needs to speak with their $$$$.
     
    Learjet , Jun 12, 2024
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  3. p-Bar

    I just received a letter from stellantis because I haven't done the recall. They are sweetening the pot with extended warranty on components. I'll post a pic of the letter when I get home from work.
     
    p-Bar , Jun 18, 2024
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  4. Diesel85 TDR MEMBER

    I'm surprised they didn't do what Ford did to some Mustang owners and if you didn't do the recall, they voided your warranty.
     
    Diesel85 , Jun 18, 2024
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  5. GSykes TDR MEMBER

    Received that same letter yesterday, I had the recall done this past January. Says they are extending the warranty of the affected parts for two more years, doesn't clarify what exact parts other than emission components. My service paperwork only mentions an upgraded flash for the ECU. Truck has been running, fine haven't noticed any difference.
     
    GSykes , Jun 18, 2024
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  6. p-Bar

    Here is the letter PXL_20240618_233602231~2.jpg #ad
     
    p-Bar , Jun 18, 2024
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  7. Cummins12V98 TDR MEMBER

    Same letter yesterday, lot's of gum flapping. Truck not going in unless they pay me to do so.
     
    Cummins12V98 , Jun 18, 2024
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  8. p-Bar

    Me too. They would have to give me a new truck.
     
    p-Bar , Jun 18, 2024
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  9. Diesel85 TDR MEMBER

    The way I read that letter is that those components will only be covered if and only if the software modification or prior use of the truck without the software modification destroyed those covered components.

    Yes, looks good on paper. But as we all know it means nothing as they could say your DPF got damaged for XYZ other reason to get out of replacing the unit at their cost.

    Been there done that before on vehicles with those "incentives".

    I don't believe a word they say.
     
    Diesel85 , Jun 19, 2024
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  10. Ram4Sam TDR MEMBER

    Here's the part from the letter that makes me all warm and fuzzy........

    tdrpeg.jpg #ad
     
    Ram4Sam , Jun 19, 2024
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  11. nukegm

    hope stellantis stays in business to honor those spare part replacement.

     
    nukegm , Jun 19, 2024
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  12. Learjet

    I'm starting to feel like my 2017 with 66,000 miles might be my last Diesel :( I may have to keep it to my end.
     
    Learjet , Jun 19, 2024
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  13. Diesel85 TDR MEMBER

    Sergio Marchionne (prior CEO before Carlos Tavares) really liked diesel engines. Hence why he fought to make the EcoDiesel in the 1500, and coincidentally the VM engine was made in Italy, in the country Sergio was born in.

    I bet Stellantis would look entirely different if Sergio was still running the ship. The EcoDiesel would be a fierce competition to GM's Mini-Duramax right now.

    I'd also imagine that Sergio would've made the Ram Charger with both a gas and diesel option. Perhaps even just a diesel option to blow the fuel economy numbers right out of the water.

    This Mr. Tavares does not like diesel engines. All Carlos sees is unicorns and electric everything.

    Look at that video posted of the factory putting those battery packs in. You really want that stuff on a vehicle that you may plan to keep 25 years or longer?

    Good thing there are different diesel truck brands to choose from. However, that's not the case with passenger cars any longer. As far as I'm aware of, in the USA, there are no diesel powered passenger cars. In my opinion, there should be some availability to the public if they want to drive a diesel car.

    I know it's rare case, but it's more common than you'd think... lots of farms around here have a 500 to 1000 gallon tank of diesel for their tractors, trucks, and other equipment. There are quite a few of them that have diesel passenger cars because they want to stick to one type of fuel on the farm. One of them has a diesel BMW they got at an auction for their son to drive.

    Me, I'm hoping to be all diesel by 2030. I'm looking to sell my F150 and buy a diesel truck to replace that, and then I'm still considering doing a diesel conversion in my Dodge Dakota. The only gasoline I want in my household is for my weed eater and my push mower. My Kubota tractor already runs on diesel and I use that for my snow removal and lawn mowing chores.

    Tired of gasoline, don't want batteries that will die in 5-7 years, and I certainly don't want a super complex hybrid. Heck, I quit driving both gas trucks because I don't like gasoline -- just don't like the feel of it, the smell, and everything about gas. I haven't bought gasoline since mid-last year to fill up a 1 gallon jerry can to run the weed eater and the push mower. I've made that 1 gallon last, because I hate using gas.
     
    Diesel85 , Jun 19, 2024
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  14. JLandry TDR MEMBER

    I had the 67A recall reprogramming done on my 2013 exactly six weeks ago and I honestly can’t tell the difference. Same power with no obvious change in DEF consumption. I appreciate the warranty extension on the DEF system components since my truck is otherwise out of warranty and I'm waiting for the DEF pump to eventually fail.
     
    JLandry , Jun 20, 2024
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  15. Topzide TDR MEMBER

    My question is, I had my DEF pump replaced last year do to it leaking and they state I could be reimbursed for the repair. That might be the only reason for having the 67A done. Since that bill was $2200! Glad to hear from another member that they haven't noticed any difference of DEF or power. Still on the fence, and need to hear some more from the 2013 -2016 crowd on their experiences with the 67A.
     
    Topzide , Jun 21, 2024
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  16. sabersix TDR MEMBER

    I had the recall done in January. I can't say I've noticed any difference at all.
     
    sabersix , Jun 21, 2024
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  17. Byershome TDR MEMBER

    I don't let the dealer touch my truck after the initial sale regardless. Been driving dodge/rams since 1976 and the few times I brought one of the 6 trucks I have owned over the years in the idiots could not solve the problem even when told specifically what it was and how to fix it (warranty issues). Only did that with my 2003 3500 and wont ever again recall or warranty item. Rather spend the money myself and know it has been done right. Who knows what they are going to do during the re-flash.
     
    Byershome , Jun 21, 2024
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  18. p-Bar

    Just got this letter in the mail PXL_20240623_170144317~2.jpg #ad
     
    p-Bar , Jun 23, 2024
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  19. nukegm

    WOW! is stellantis getting desperate or what? or is the boot of the epa jumping on their neck? what a sh*t show. cheers!
     
    nukegm , Jun 23, 2024
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  20. Ram4Sam TDR MEMBER

    This has been around for years, but hasn't been seen for awhile. I got the same letter back in 2015, I think it paid more back then. I came close to doing it with my 2014 but didn't as I had just received a date for the buyback hearing with FCA for the truck they couldn't fix.......

    Sam
     
    Ram4Sam , Jun 24, 2024
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